Supreme Court hears arguments in 'vampire rule' gun case

Supreme Court hears arguments in ‘vampire rule’ gun case

Spread the love

The U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments on Tuesday in a case over a Hawaii law that prohibits concealed carry permit holders from bringing guns on private property that is open to the public.

Wolford v. Lopez challenges a Hawaii law that prevents gun owners from bringing handguns to beaches, bars, restaurants that serve alcohol and gas stations without the owner’s consent. California, Maryland, New Jersey and New York have similar restrictions on guns in public spaces.

“The presumptive ban is inconsistent with our national and historical tradition,” said Alan Beck, a lawyer representing Hawaii gun owners who sued the state.

Beck argued that Hawaii based its law on historical traditions like Black codes which prevented newly formerly enslaved African Americans from obtaining firearms. He said this application is inconsistent with the Second Amendment.

“We can’t use a racist, discriminatory law to apply to a law that applies to the general public,” Beck said.

However, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said she did not understand why Black codes should be excluded in the determination of the law if history and tradition are compelling factors.

Neal Katyal, a lawyer representing Hawaii, argued that the purpose of including Black codes in its explanation is to argue evidence that states have historically been allowed to implement gun regulations. He said Hawaii’s law is based on 200 years of customs against carrying weapons.

Justice Neil Gorsuch appeared skeptical about Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of black codes and compared it to “garlic in front of a vampire.”

“You could have rights and regulations that affect someone’s interests but they actually don’t implicate their constitutional rights,” Jackson said, appearing to be in favor of Hawaii’s restrictions.

Similarly, Justice Sonia Sotomayor pressed Beck on whether people are guaranteed a constitutional right to carry guns on private property.

“Nothing about Hawaii’s custom, tradition, or culture creates an expectation that the general public carries guns wherever they go,” Sotomayor said.

Justices also dug into questions over the distinction between guarantees in the First Amendment and the Second Amendment over private property rules. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch questioned lawyers for Hawaii over the difference between bringing a gun to a gas station versus soliciting at someone’s house.

Since the Second Amendment deals with gun possession rather than free speech, “the first amendment rules are different from the second amendment,” Katyal said.

In lower court litigation, Hawaii pointed to a 1771 New Jersey law and 1865 Louisiana law that explicitly required consent before entering a private property of any kind with a gun. Lower courts upheld Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of these laws.

Several justices on the court appeared skeptical of these arguments, and Justice Clarence Thomas said later laws, like the 14th Amendment, should be considered in this case since it was generated in response previous legal restrictions.

“They wanted to disarm the Black population in order to help the [Ku Klux] Klan terrorize them,” Justice Samuel Alito said about Black code laws.

Katyal said Black code laws were a “shameful part of our history” but argued they represent how gun owners did not have the right to carry firearms onto private property.

“Even the opponents of the Black codes recognized that you have no right to carry a firearm onto someone’s property,” Katyal said.

John Commerford, executive director of the NRA-ILA, urged justices on the court to rule against Hawaii’s law.

“The Aloha State’s radical ‘vampire rule,’ which prohibits concealed carry permitholders from entering private property without the express consent of the owner, is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment,” he said.

The “vampire rule” refers to the folklore that vampires need an invitation to enter private property.

The justices will decide whether to uphold Hawaii’s gun restrictions by the end of its term, slated for June or early July.

Leave a Comment





Latest News Stories

Collins, Dooley to face off in June runoff for U.S. Senate

Collins, Dooley to face off in June runoff for U.S. Senate

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Republican candidates for Georgia’s contentious U.S. Senate race will face off again in a June 16 runoff to determine November's representative. Neither U.S. Rep. Mike...
Alabama U.S. Senate races head to June runoff

Alabama U.S. Senate races head to June runoff

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Both party primaries for U.S. Senate in Alabama will head to a runoff election in June, multiple outlets reported. U.S. Rep. Barry Moore, R-Ala., and...
Tuberville, Jones to face off in Alabama governor's race

Tuberville, Jones to face off in Alabama governor’s race

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Sen. Tommy Tuberville secured the Republican nomination for Alabama governor Tuesday and will face off against former U.S. Sen. Doug Jones in November. The Republican...
SCOTUS turns down Eli Lilly bid to end ‘bounty hunter’ lawsuits

SCOTUS turns down Eli Lilly bid to end ‘bounty hunter’ lawsuits

By Jonathan Bilyk | Legal NewslineThe Center Square The U.S. Supreme Court has turned aside the bid by pharmaceutical maker Eli Lilly to not only toss out a $183 million...
Congressional candidates discuss immigration, tax policies

Congressional candidates discuss immigration, tax policies

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Editor's note: This is the part of a series of stories that are appearing this week on the June 2 primary election in California. The...
Trump-endorsed Gallrein outs Massie in Kentucky

Trump-endorsed Gallrein outs Massie in Kentucky

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Rep. Andy Barr and Ed Gallrein secured partisan nominations in high-profile Kentucky primary races Tuesday, according to multiple outlets. President Donald Trump's endorsement appeared critical...
U.S. House defies Senate, weakens private equity restrictions in housing bill

U.S. House defies Senate, weakens private equity restrictions in housing bill

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square Despite the White House publicly urging the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to approve the U.S. Senate’s bipartisan housing bill, House lawmakers have put forth their...
Illinois Quick Hits: Group files lawsuit against gun owner ID law

Illinois Quick Hits: Group files lawsuit against gun owner ID law

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – A new challenge to Illinois’ requirement for gun owners to have a state police-issued license has been...
Pritzker touts EV plant in Normal, Bailey says taxpayers bear the burden

Pritzker touts EV plant in Normal, Bailey says taxpayers bear the burden

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker says Rivian is the best electric vehicle maker in the world, but his...
State Supreme Court hears arguments over Uber forced arbitration

State Supreme Court hears arguments over Uber forced arbitration

By Sean Reed | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – Four years after two men – an Uber driver and a passenger – died in a car...
Vance defends DOJ's nearly $1.8B 'weaponization' fund

Vance defends DOJ’s nearly $1.8B ‘weaponization’ fund

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday defended a nearly $1.8 billion taxpayer fund through the U.S. Department of Justice aimed at supporting victims of "lawfare...
Vance highlights 'progress' in Iran negotiations, floats additional fighting

Vance highlights ‘progress’ in Iran negotiations, floats additional fighting

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square Vice President JD Vance said the U.S. and Iran have "made a lot of progress" on negotiations to end the conflict between the two nations....
Experts: Republican bills offer little data privacy protection, override state laws

Experts: Republican bills offer little data privacy protection, override state laws

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square Republicans have introduced legislation that would enact nationwide consumer data protections, but experts disagree on whether the proposed federal standard would actually protect Americans’ online...
NAACP asks Black university athletes in 7 states to boycott

NAACP asks Black university athletes in 7 states to boycott

By Alan WootenThe Center Square Black athletes in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas and South Carolina at public universities are being encouraged to join the NAACP’s Out of Bounds...
Tillis to Hegseth: Choose meritocracy over your mediocre yes-men

Tillis to Hegseth: Choose meritocracy over your mediocre yes-men

By Alan WootenThe Center Square Gen. Chris Donahue, former key leader aboard Fort Bragg and in the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal, got a strong backing from an outgoing North Carolina senator...